Angloth (January 1, 1970 at 12:59 am)

interesting shit.

quicksite (January 1, 1970 at 12:59 am)

(3) very specific objectives -- for example -- an economic boycott of Disney-produced entertainment due to that conglomerate's development & ballsy promotion of the phony docudrama "Path to 9/11" which aired despite little pockets of resistance at places like DailyKos & AmericaBlog.Separate from that discussion, my interests have shifted away from electoral politics, toward what I loosely call "Para-government" -- bypassing official govt completely, focusing on influencing citizens directly.

quicksite (January 1, 1970 at 12:59 am)

(2) ... Many experiments in collaboration have failed, or were severely compromised, because no one wants their "brand" tucked up under some coordinating body, no matter how temporary or for what purpose. thus, i've evolved my own practical models for citizen coordination that crosses organizational boundaries. the web enables this fluidity... so people can still participate in their orgs, & they can also participate in individual or multi-entity driven cross-organizational projects focused on

quicksite (January 1, 1970 at 12:59 am)

Since the Dean campaign, I've worked in a variety of group configurations. Form an entity, network, collective, association, coalition. The truest thing I have determined after 20 years of progressive activism: Collaboration is often foiled because any form of coordination is feared as somehow a threat to the autonomy of one org vs another. Funding turf wars also lead to absurd non-coordination. MoveOn won't work with DFA, and DFA won't work w/ MoveOn. Recipes for serial-failures.

quicksite (January 1, 1970 at 12:59 am)

((atypicalguy this could be a political model for the next generation))( secession101 - Reply Marked as spamYou can bet on it. )Why in world was that marked as spam? perhaps accidental.I was very active in the Dean campaign. 4 years later, though Obama campaign has extracted the very best practices & improved upon them, STILL, the bulk of online political interaction is typing text on a screen, no different than back in 1980's when L.A. had BBS systems linked to internet, pre-web.

theimperfektman (January 1, 1970 at 12:59 am)

to me the ratios show that laziness/inability are at the heart of the human condition. inability is situational while lethargy can spring from deafeat/lack of motivation. this is the key problem in socialism: motivation and ability. some feel that socialism takes away and gives to all, whne the truth is if you put in you should receive. it's giftgiving! money has to be out of the equation. i hate money myself but that's situational. motivation and ability are so much more pure. my best wishes!!

theimperfektman (January 1, 1970 at 12:59 am)

you should watch a few other vids on this type of thing: Kevin Kelly and Boahen. also check out greentech/John Doerr. let me know how it goes!

theimperfektman (January 1, 1970 at 12:59 am)

i've been thinking this for years. true socialism :) through mutually beneficial cooperation. i see a bright future in 50 years.. or mass chaos

megamarsvin (January 1, 1970 at 12:59 am)

So.. Tagging makes stuff easier to find.. Good talk that -_-'

lolwtfomfglol (January 1, 1970 at 12:59 am)

we are all psycho milt